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		<title>By: Graeme Sutherland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Sutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2004 02:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no problem with provding a few different kinds of feeds.  I&#039;m pretty sure we can bend planet to make that work.
So, to summarise briefly:

1. we need a feed of blog summaries (25 words...) as well as a full text feed. People can then choose which one they like.

2. some kind of category-based feeds would be good, especially if people could make new feeds and share them with others.

So I propose doing (1) first, then start slowly working on (2).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no problem with provding a few different kinds of feeds.  I&#8217;m pretty sure we can bend planet to make that work.<br />
So, to summarise briefly:</p>
<p>1. we need a feed of blog summaries (25 words&#8230;) as well as a full text feed. People can then choose which one they like.</p>
<p>2. some kind of category-based feeds would be good, especially if people could make new feeds and share them with others.</p>
<p>So I propose doing (1) first, then start slowly working on (2).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://gravyland.net/2004/11/10/perthblogs-out-of-hand-what-about-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still not convinced.  Again, it would be best if we could run two feeds so both options exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not convinced.  Again, it would be best if we could run two feeds so both options exist.</p>
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		<title>By: John R</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Title and a 25 word abstract is surely enough.  I use the feed regularly, but when I see a long posting I tend to skip it after the first paragraph and click through to the relevant blog.  Seeing the whole thing on someone&#039;s blog is far better because their words fit in with the blog&#039;s design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title and a 25 word abstract is surely enough.  I use the feed regularly, but when I see a long posting I tend to skip it after the first paragraph and click through to the relevant blog.  Seeing the whole thing on someone&#8217;s blog is far better because their words fit in with the blog&#8217;s design.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Sutherland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Sutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 03:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the comments. Some good stuff going on here.  I&#039;ll digest it all on the weekend and look at some possibilities.  Keep going.  I like the sound of categories too. Think that could be good, especially if they were easy to create and join.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments. Some good stuff going on here.  I&#8217;ll digest it all on the weekend and look at some possibilities.  Keep going.  I like the sound of categories too. Think that could be good, especially if they were easy to create and join.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 03:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the point of only headers and links, there just not enough information to get from it for me to click on the link and read it. Its more an update service then anything. I&#039;m guilty of using abbreviated posts in my rss feed, but I still give the reader a chace to work out what I&#039;m saying. I use my reader as a guide, if I like something enough I&#039;ll actually go to the site and read it.

Categories are best for me. A main complete feed is a must though.

But of course if we all have our own feeds then at the end of the day users just need only add each of our sites separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the point of only headers and links, there just not enough information to get from it for me to click on the link and read it. Its more an update service then anything. I&#8217;m guilty of using abbreviated posts in my rss feed, but I still give the reader a chace to work out what I&#8217;m saying. I use my reader as a guide, if I like something enough I&#8217;ll actually go to the site and read it.</p>
<p>Categories are best for me. A main complete feed is a must though.</p>
<p>But of course if we all have our own feeds then at the end of the day users just need only add each of our sites separately.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://gravyland.net/2004/11/10/perthblogs-out-of-hand-what-about-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Wonders how many of these options are feasible.*

For my two cents, I&#039;d prefer full text in the feed.  Extracts just don&#039;t work for me because I don&#039;t look at the subject matter before deciding to read something.  
I think categories would solve the overload problem for the moment, but I can still see certain categories (&#039;personal&#039;, for example) becoming overloaded in the future.  Arbitrary categories based on geography or groups of people who read each other&#039;s blogs would be a good backup in that case.  Imagine the kind of layout you get in chat rooms, where the people in the Buffy room aren&#039;t necessarily talking about Buffy The Vampire Slayer, just having a private convo.  Even if you create a reasonably random structure, people will still find niches in it.

Of course, if we could build customised feeds and use Graham&#039;s server as our own personal RSS reader, that would be even better.  I *hate* my reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Wonders how many of these options are feasible.*</p>
<p>For my two cents, I&#8217;d prefer full text in the feed.  Extracts just don&#8217;t work for me because I don&#8217;t look at the subject matter before deciding to read something.<br />
I think categories would solve the overload problem for the moment, but I can still see certain categories (&#8217;personal&#8217;, for example) becoming overloaded in the future.  Arbitrary categories based on geography or groups of people who read each other&#8217;s blogs would be a good backup in that case.  Imagine the kind of layout you get in chat rooms, where the people in the Buffy room aren&#8217;t necessarily talking about Buffy The Vampire Slayer, just having a private convo.  Even if you create a reasonably random structure, people will still find niches in it.</p>
<p>Of course, if we could build customised feeds and use Graham&#8217;s server as our own personal RSS reader, that would be even better.  I *hate* my reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://gravyland.net/2004/11/10/perthblogs-out-of-hand-what-about-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t use an RSS reader, because I don&#039;t like the interface.

But changing the display on the web feed won&#039;t necessarily alter the RSS feeds people can subscribe to on their feed-reader. We should cater to as many users as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use an RSS reader, because I don&#8217;t like the interface.</p>
<p>But changing the display on the web feed won&#8217;t necessarily alter the RSS feeds people can subscribe to on their feed-reader. We should cater to as many users as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://gravyland.net/2004/11/10/perthblogs-out-of-hand-what-about-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use an RSS Reader as well, which is the best way of doing it. I used SharpReader in the past, but am now on SauceReader. The only problem I have with the feed is that some sites (generally Blogger ones) don&#039;t work. The URL gets mangled somewhere along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use an RSS Reader as well, which is the best way of doing it. I used SharpReader in the past, but am now on SauceReader. The only problem I have with the feed is that some sites (generally Blogger ones) don&#8217;t work. The URL gets mangled somewhere along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Giles</title>
		<link>http://gravyland.net/2004/11/10/perthblogs-out-of-hand-what-about-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. You mean you people go to the web page and all the posts there, is that what people are saying? It&#039;s much easier if you get an RSS feed of the whole collection, and that way you can filter based on subject. I can scan Perth Blogs in seconds and determine which I want to read in more detail from the comfort of NetNewsWire. If I want more info I can go to the author&#039;s blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. You mean you people go to the web page and all the posts there, is that what people are saying? It&#8217;s much easier if you get an RSS feed of the whole collection, and that way you can filter based on subject. I can scan Perth Blogs in seconds and determine which I want to read in more detail from the comfort of NetNewsWire. If I want more info I can go to the author&#8217;s blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Olsen</title>
		<link>http://gravyland.net/2004/11/10/perthblogs-out-of-hand-what-about-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-643</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy the variety of having everything there. I usually scroll down and read the titles and first couple of lines of most posts. I don&#039;t read the full text of everything posted, only those that interest me enough to keep reading.

If there was only the first twenty or so words as has been suggested it would make it simpler and easier to find posts that we wanted to read in more detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy the variety of having everything there. I usually scroll down and read the titles and first couple of lines of most posts. I don&#8217;t read the full text of everything posted, only those that interest me enough to keep reading.</p>
<p>If there was only the first twenty or so words as has been suggested it would make it simpler and easier to find posts that we wanted to read in more detail.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh also double posts bad too. I&#039;m very guilty of this as I often pop back to edit for typos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh also double posts bad too. I&#8217;m very guilty of this as I often pop back to edit for typos.</p>
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